Pre-Trib Imminence is argued for the same way Endless Torment is argued for

This hit me as I was listening to this Podcast from Chris White arguing agaisnt Imminence.
https://bibleprophecytalk.com/a-hopefully-more-clear-refutation-of-an-imminent-rapture/

I'm listening to how baffled he is at the way a verse just being about The Parusia at all is enough to make Pre-Tribbers label it a proof text for Imminence, when in fact there are passages that that refer to certain things clearly happening first.

I'm ironically sympathetic because Endless Torment is defended the same way.  When some traditional Christian just lists verses that "prove" the doctrine in a context where they won't be challenged on them.  What they give are mostly a list of verses showing that God will judge sinners, a couple where it might be necessary to argue what a certain Greek word means, but most of them don't even include that word.

There are Bible verses that show God's Punishments/Chastisements are for Correction, from Habakkuk 1:12 to Job 37:13 to Proverbs 3:11.  Jesus affirms in Matthew 5, Luke 12 and Matthew 18 that the punishment is till the price is paid.  Deuteronomy 29-30 to Hosea to Ezekiel 16 all show that God's judgments on Israel are to bring her to repentance and that even Sodom will be restored.  Malachi 3 says the fire of God is for purging and purification and promises the children of Jacob they will not be consumed.

To them that proof texting is what's inappropriately picking and choosing in ignorance of the grander context.  And again like how Pre-Tribbers approach their Imminence passages feeling like anything less then their most extreme interpretation is tantamount to rejecting the passage entirely.  And both groups apply the same tactic to how they struggle to claim as much support as they can from the Pre-Nicene fathers

Endless Torment is only more respectable then Pre-Trib because it's been around longer.  But Pre-Trib won't go away and so if the Age of Grace lasts long enough we'll reach a point where Pre-Trib has more antiquity then Endless Torment has now.  Endless Torment was not unambiguously taught by anyone not later condemned as a heretic before Augustine of Hippo who couldn't read Greek at all.

Chris White's Pre-Wrath view does believe in a very similar kind of Imminence, just that it doesn't become Imminent till after the Abomination of Desolation.  I believe it's Imminent after that but not in a "nothing specific happens first" sense but in a it happens immediately sense, 10 days at the absolute most and that is being generous.  The Pre-Wrath position is functionally the same as Partial Preterism and Historicism, they just think we are already in that point on the timeline between what must happen first and the Rapture.