Possibility of 2050-2057

I'm not dogmatic on any date setting.  But I have come to an interesting hypothetical theory.

If you take Ussher's Creation date (4004 B.C.) and correct him only on the 60 year dispute on when in Terah's life Abraham was born, you get 3944 B.C. Which then has 2057 mark the begging of the 6001st year of History, (remember that there is no year 0).

Meanwhile J.R. Church had his Hidden Prophecies in the Psalms theory, centered on the fact that Psalm 48 could be viewed as a Prophecy of Israel's restoration in 1948 (though it's ultimately about New Jerusalem). But he stopped viewing them as correlating to years with Book 5 (Psalm 107 and up) because he didn't want the end to be that far off.  With 150 Psalms, that puts the Period the Psalms document as ending in 2050.

There are reasons I've come to theorize that the Seventh Trumpet (which I view as the midway point of the 70th week) could correlate to a Solar Eclipse on the eve of the Feast of Trumpets (First of Tishri).  There will be one on September 12 of 53 AD.  This is similar to the August 2 2027 eclipse a certain website online sees as significant.  But that Eclipse is two months too early to be the Feast of Trumpets.  That site also uses historist day=year theory nonsense about Issac Newton's 2060 theory.

It will only be partial over Israel, but be Total over North Africa and Arabia. I think it only being Partial is fine, it's pretty rare any of the Solar Eclipses at the right time of year are visible in Israel at all, and the next century has none that are Total over Israel.  Jesus' description in Matthew 24 has the Sun and Moon darkened but still visible.  This one fits the best of any within the life time of people alive now.

I'm not a supporter of the Blood Moon theory as I've explained on this blog before.  If the Moon turning to Blood in Joel 2 and Revelation 6 has any natural explanation at all, volcanic eruptions can work just as easily.  And there is certainly no Tetrad needed, the Blood Moon references in Scripture are all a singular event.

However I have argued for unrelated reasons that I feel the Sixth Seal events could happen on the Passover of the Nisan that begins the 70th Week.  And at any rate I do think the moon turning to Blood would have the best dramatic effect if it's a Full Moon.

There will be a Total Lunar Eclipse visible in Israel on May 6 of 2050.  On the Calendar the Jews currently use that's a month too late to be Passover.  But some people think the Jewish calendar is in some years off by a month, and indeed the Samaritans and Karaites both do their leap months differently.  But if it is accurate then that May 6th would be Second Passover, which I have before argued for seeing as possibly eschatologicaly significant.  This Blood Moon is also the first of a Tetrad.

The Sixth Seal theory I've worked out before could easily be adjusted to that, the Horsemen would still ride in Nisan.

Back to the 2053 Solar Eclipse.  It will be at that time that Jupiter is leaving Virgo after having been in her for over 9 months.  Venus, Mercury, Uranus and Mars will all be in Virgo at that time too.  Which can be interesting in light of Revelation 12 theories.  The Moon will indeed be under the feet of Virgo just a few days later.

The top objection to this other then usual anti Date Setting sentiment would be the view that the end must come within a generation of 1948.  People are already beginning to more commonly live to 120, so some people born before 1948 could still be alive in 2057.

Edit Update : I was honestly unaware when I first came up with this of Frank J. Tipler and his reasons for predicting the second coming before 2057. (of course my model as a form of "Mid-Trib" places the Second Coming proper in 2053).

Psalm 83 War in 1983, Elam in The Millennium, and Chris White vs Bill Saulus

http://bibleprophecytalk.com/the-psalm-83-war-debunked/
http://bibleprophecytalk.com/bpt-the-psalm-83-war-debunked/
I ultimately agree with Chris White's debunking of the Psalm 83 War.  But I want to add some thoughts.

It's funny how Prophecy In The News has become one of the biggest supporters of Bill Saulus' Psalm 83 War idea.  Because J.R. Church in his very old book Hidden Prophecies in The Psalms had also discussed Psalm 83, way before Saulus.  It foreshadows Saulus' theory in reading the modern Israel vs Isalmic world conflict into the text.  But like Chris White he saw the Psalm not as describing a specific major War per se, but more of a behind the scenes political conspiracy.  The enemies of Israel colluding together, but the outright military conflict part of it being small, and mostly by proxy.

I like the theory of that book.  I wouldn't build doctrine on it, but the foundational aspect of seeing Psalm 48 as predicting Israel's reestablishment as a nation in 1948 is interesting (even though it's equally clear it's ultimate fulfillment is in New Jerusalem).  Also psalm 48 is the first of three Psalms to use the Hebrew phrase that should be translated "The Last Generation", and 1948 is in the middle of the period in which the Baby Boomers were being born.

And the Period between the Camp David treaty being signed and the treaty with Jordan being made in the 90s is in fact the period in modern history when those aligned against Israel most directly matched Psalm 83's list of enemies.  Because that's after Egypt ceased to be an Enemy but while Jordan still was.

People like to read Egypt into Psalm 83 via the Hagarenes, since Hagar was the mother of Ishmael who was an Egyptian so they feel it makes sense to see Hagarenes as a poetic code for Islamic-Arab Egypt.  But the Hagarenes in the Hebrew text are the same people refereed to elsewhere in the KJV as the Hagarites, Hagerite or Haggeri in 1 Chronicles 5:10-20, 11:38, and 27:31.  Where they are clearly a Trans-Jordan tribe, and thus further reason to look to modern Jordan or the Golan Heights if you want a Modern context.

The Hagarites probably are an Ishmaelite tribe, in 1 Chronicles 5 they're linked to 3 other tribes, two of which are known sons of Ishmael and the third has no discernible origin in Genesis.  One of those tribes is Jetur, who are the tribe known in NT times as the Iturians.

So the Lebanon civil war of 1982-83 and it's ties into Israel's other foreign policy and terrorism concerns of the time does happen to fit Psalm 83 pretty well.  But I agree with Chris White that the immediate context was of Asaph's own time.

The more recent theory Bill Saulus has been promoting about Elam and Jeremiah 49:34-39 I find pretty valid.  However I disagree with how he ties Psalm 83 and Gog and Magog and the Pre-Trib Rapture theory into his timing of it.

I want to copy/paste Jeremiah's prophecy here.  With a minor translation adjustment from the KJV.

The word of Yahweh that came to Jeremiah the prophet against Elam in the beginning of the reign of Zedekiah king of Judah, saying, Thus saith Yahweh of hosts; Behold, I will break the bow of Elam, the chief of their might.  And upon Elam will I bring the four winds from the four quarters of heaven, and will scatter them toward all those winds; and there shall be no nation whither the outcasts of Elam shall not come.

 For I will cause Elam to be dismayed before their enemies, and before them that seek their life: and I will bring evil upon them, even my fierce anger, saith Yahweh; and I will send the sword after them, till I have consumed them: And I will set my throne in Elam, and will destroy from thence the king and the princes, saith Yahweh.  But it shall come to pass in the latter days, that I will bring again the captivity of Elam, saith Yahweh.

I think this disaster could be part of the tidings out of the East that troubles The Antichrist in Daniel 11:44.  And that The Holy Spirit is leading Evangelical Christians in Iran to look to this Prophecy I feel is important.  Because I do believe the Gifts of the Spirit are still here.

I'm thinking based on Daniel 11:44 it may be the result of The Antichrist posing as an ally of Israel (or maybe an Israeli leader himself) doing preemptive strikes against Russia and Iran as they're planning an attack on Israel.  And then passing that off as fulfilling Ezekiel 38&39.

I think this could tie into the Kurds fulfilling ancient prophecies of The Medes.  If Modern Iran collapses then the Kurdish state forming in northern Iraq could expand into the Kurdish regions of Iran.  And thus will look a lot like Ancient Media.

What is most fascinating and unusual is that this is the only place where Scripture describes Yahweh placing his Throne somewhere on Earth other then Israel.  It surprised me to realize that there was such an occasion.

I've explained elsewhere why I feel many Old Testament prophecies we assume to be about The Millennium may really be the New Heaven and New Earth.  Including Ezekiel 40-48, and other key passages of Isaiah.  With those insights in mind, looking at Revelation 20-22 it is arguable that Jerusalem doesn't become God's Earthly Throne until New Jerusalem descends.  Revelation 20 does clearly show that Jerusalem exists in The Millennium, but the only direct reference to it there is at the end, for the Gog and Magog invasion which I do view as the same as Ezekiel 38-39 even though that's unpopular.

Some people do argue that Israel's regathering isn't really complete until sometime during The Millennium.  I think those arguments are valid, but I am firmly Pre-Millenial unlike some who might make such arguments.

With all that in mind.  I'm thinking it could be Elam is where The Millennial Throne of Jesus is located.

Or if it's not there the Entire Millennium then maybe just during a part of it.

The Rapture in The Old Testament

Is a somewhat controversial topic.  Because it's largely a Church specific event, and because of things Paul said in Galatians it's popularly assumed the doctrine of The Church can't be founding The Old Testament. So it is often considered pointless to look for it there.

However I feel there are sufficient hints of The Church in the Old Testament.  And The Rapture is also linked to The Resurrection.

Isaiah 26:19-21 is the most popular place to see an illusion to The Rapture.

Thy dead men shall live, together with my dead body shall they arise. Awake and sing, ye that dwell in dust: for thy dew is as the dew of herbs, and the earth shall cast out the dead.  Come, my people, enter thou into thy chambers, and shut thy doors about thee: hide thyself as it were for a little moment, until the indignation be overpast.  For, behold, the LORD cometh out of his place to punish the inhabitants of the earth for their iniquity: the earth also shall disclose her blood, and shall no more cover her slain.

I have already mentioned Joel Chapter 2 in my past studies, explaining why I feel that ties into the Seventh Trumpet/Mid-SeventiethWeek view.  But I didn't outright cite the entire passage, because it was supplemental to other points, and I do not consider my view dependent upon it.  So I've decided to cite it here.

Joel 2:10-16 I view are correlating to the 7th Trumpet (with the effects of some earlier Trumpets still lingering).  Matthew 24, and Paul's references to the "Last Trump" in his Rapture passages in Corinthians and Thessalonians.

The earth shall quake before them; the heavens shall tremble: the sun and the moon shall be dark, and the stars shall withdraw their shining: And the LORD shall utter his voice before his army: for his camp is very great: for he is strong that executeth his word: for the day of the LORD is great and very terrible; and who can abide it?

Therefore also now, saith the LORD, turn ye even to me with all your heart, and with fasting, and with weeping, and with mourning:  And rend your heart, and not your garments, and turn unto the LORD your God: for he is gracious and merciful, slow to anger, and of great kindness, and repenteth him of the evil.  Who knoweth if he will return and repent, and leave a blessing behind him; even a meat offering and a drink offering unto the LORD your God?

 Blow the trumpet in Zion, sanctify a fast, call a solemn assembly: Gather the people, sanctify the congregation, assemble the elders, gather the children, and those that suck the breasts: let the bridegroom go forth of his chamber, and the bride out of her closet.

We have the people being Gathered, and we have the Bridegroom and The Bride.  And of course a Trumpet being sounded.