Showing posts with label Genealogy of Jesus. Show all posts
Showing posts with label Genealogy of Jesus. Show all posts

Sunday, September 4, 2022

Mariamne Magdalene

Mariamne is an unusual Greek form of the Hebrew name Miriam that Josephus uses a lot but never the New Testament (I don't currently know if it's ever in the LXX, Greek Apocrypha or Philo).  

It is most commonly associated in the study of Greco-Roman history with certain women of the Hasmonean and Herodian Dynasties, but Josephus does also use it of Miriam the Sister of Moses showing it is a form of the same name we today commonly know simply as Maria, Marie or Mary. 

The most famous Mariamne is the second wife of Herod who was also a Granddaughter of both sons of Alexander Janneus and Salome Alexandra, commonly designated Mariamne I.

Mariamne III is the designation commonly given to the youngest child of Aristobulus the first born son of Mariamne I.  Two of her siblings are unambiguously mentioned in the New Testament, Herodias who was married to Antipas when John The Baptist lost his head, and Herod Agrippa I in Acts 12.

We don't know anything for certain about Mariamne III's life besides that she existed and was named Mariamne.  If she was indeed the youngest child of Aristobolus then she was probably born between 10 and 7 BC, for timeline context 11 or 12 BC is the date I currently favor for the Nativity of Jesus.  This Mariamne could be the same Mariamne who Archelus was briefly married to in 6 AD but spurned for Glaphyra, but that's uncertain.  Either way she disappears from history after that.

Mary Magdalene is first introduced chronologically speaking in Luke 8
And it came to pass afterward, that he went throughout every city and village, preaching and shewing the glad tidings of the kingdom of God: and the twelve were with him, and certain women, which had been healed of evil spirits and infirmities, Mary called Magdalene, out of whom went seven devils, and Joanna the wife of Chuza Herod's steward, and Susanna, and many others, which ministered unto him of their substance.
Joanna's connection to the court of Herod Antipas has made some reading this passage speculate all three might have come from there.  At least two of Mariamne III's siblings were living in the court of Herod Antipas in the late 20s and early 30s AD, the same two mentioned above.

So I have developed a hunch that Mary Magdalene of The Bible and Mariamne III of Josephus are the same woman, just at different points in her life.

Wednesday, April 11, 2018

The Adopted Son of Joseph Son of David

Another objection to the Genealogy of Jesus as presented in Matthew and Luke is that Jesus couldn't become an Heir to the Throne of David by Adoption.  Now I still stand by my past arguments for Luke's genealogy actually being Mary's, and even without that nothing anywhere says Mary wasn't a descendant of David.  But considering the value I place on Adoption both morally and theologically, it's about time I said "so what".  Because after all there must be a reason we're given Joseph's genealogy in at least Matthew.

But first, before I even get into that argument. I should address what may sometimes be an internal debate among Christians.  Does Jesus qualify as even an adopted son of Joseph?

Because in the story at the end of Luke 2 when Mary finds Jesus she refers to Joseph as His father, but some people like to say what Jesus goes on to say about doing His Father's business as correcting her.  That has it's origin as an over reaction to how some seek to use what Mary said here against The Virgin Birth.

I feel many American Conservative Christians have dug their heels in on that because of their obsession with the modern nuclear family.  They feel an Adopted or Step father is only needed if the physical sire is a deadbeat or just plain dead, because you can't have "two daddies" that would be horrible.  This is also why so many commentaries refuse to acknowledge that Jacob is referring to Leah as Joseph's mother in Genesis 37.

Luke 4:22 and John 1:45 clearly show that Jesus was legally regarded as a Son of Joseph.

In the past I'd focused more on Luke's Genealogy because even though I've always valued Adoption I felt that Jesus had to be a Blood descendant of everyone Prophecy required Him to descend from so that by His shed Blood gentiles can become Abraham's Seed and mortals can become Sons of God.  And I still think He was, but I've come to realize that Jesus is himself an adopted Son for a reason.

Now when this comes up as a Jewish objection to Jesus, it's not because Jews oppose Adoption or anything, The Torah clearly says anyone Circumcised who follows The Torah is to be considered an Israelite.  It's a claim that Royal Inheritance specifically has to be biological.

II Samuel 7:12 does specifically say Seed.  But it'd be hypocritical to use that against Jesus since these objectors to Jesus often reject dual fulfillment elsewhere.  The immediate context of that verse was clearly the Seed of David who took the throne right after David died.  What's interesting is verse 14 talks about this Son of David being an adopted Son of God.  So the New Testament brings it full circle, The Son of God becomes an adopted Son of David.  And that is why David calls The Messiah his Lord in Psalm 110.

The last verse of Jeremiah 33 seems to say that Israel won't be ruled by the Seed of David anymore when they return from Captivity.  The Root in Isaiah 11 is of Jesse rather then David.  Some Psalms speak of David's Seed, but there is room for interpretation there too.

I stumbled recently unto an online book by a Jew who argues that The Messiah will not be a Son of David but David himself Resurrected, arguing that the Branch is an idiom for a Resurrected Body and looking specifically at Ezekiel 34&37.  As a Christian I obviously disagree with that overall premise, but I do agree that Ezekiel is describing David himself Resurrected as the future Nasi, not using the name David as a code for Jesus as some Christians prefer to look at it.  

I think David himself would take offense at excluding adopted sons from Royal Inheritance, since he was a Son but not by Blood of Saul.  In 1 Samuel 24:9-11 David calls Saul "father" and in 1 Samuel 24:16 and 26:17-21-25 Saul calls David his Son.

Now David's Kingship ultimately came from God choosing his line over Saul's.  But likewise the Son of God incarnate doesn't need descent from any specific mortal to be the rightful ruler of The World.  David became a Son of Saul regardless.

Now you may respond that David was the Son in Law of Saul because he married Michal.  To which I first would say, "like how Christian apologists argue Luke's genealogy sometimes means Son in Law when it says Son".  This is also a good time to bring up The Bride of Christ, who is also the Daughter of Zion The City of David.

But another reason David was a Son of Saul was 1 Samuel 18:1-4 where David's Blood Covenant with Johnathon made him Johnathon's joint heir.

What Moses says of Joseph in Deuteronomy 33 is one of the foundations of the Messiah Ben Joseph doctrine that's become popular in Rabbinic Judaism.  It's the basis for saying it's the Son of Joseph not David who will be killed and then Resurrected.  Something I brought up in my Human Sacrifice in The Torah post, which in turn referenced back to my Nazareth post where I suggested that Mary could have been of the Tribe of Manasseh.  For the sacrificial offering alluded to in that blessing it's being a Maternal Firstborn that mattered, the first to Open the Womb.

But the Messiah Ben-Joseph doctrine also needs it to be a Son of Joseph who's pierced in Zechariah 12:10, even though the context of that verse is all about the House of David.  Chapter 12 begins with a new "The Word of YHWH came unto me saying" so no it's not a continuation of the previous three chapters where Joseph and Ephraim came up a lot.  These three chapters seem to be strictly about the Southern Kingdom.  So the only way the one Pierced can be a Son of Joseph, is if he's a Son of Joseph adopted into the House of David.

Tuesday, April 10, 2018

The Curse on Jeconiah?

My addressing the Genealogies of Jesus on this Blog has generally mostly focused on dealing with Luke's Genealogy for various reasons.  But I've come to realize that it's about time I paid more attention to Matthew's as well.

This particular topic however can be viewed as a transitional one, since the names of Sheatiel and Zerubabel being in Luke 3 means the Curse on Jeconiah issue has been used against both (though both names being common during the Persian period means there's no proof they're meant to be the same individuals).

I'm not going to use the usual Chuck Missler tactic of talking about how God worked around it.

In Jeremiah 22:28-30 Yahuah puts a Curse on Jeconiah, calling him Coniah.
Is this man Coniah a despised broken idol? is he a vessel wherein is no pleasure? wherefore are they cast out, he and his seed, and are cast into a land which they know not?  O earth, earth, earth, hear the word of Yahuah.  Thus saith Yahuah, Write ye this man childless, a man that shall not prosper in his days: for no man of his seed shall prosper, sitting upon the throne of David, and ruling any more in Judah.
And this gets used to say clearly Jesus (and his half siblings) are not eligible to inherit The Throne of David.

Now it makes some sense to me for Atheists to use this as a criticism of The Biblical record as a whole.  But as I'm about to show using this as a Jewish objection to Jesus doesn't really think things through.

Jeremiah is the only Biblical Author to mention this Curse.  And he's the Prophet who explains that Yahuah reverses His Blessings and Curses based on obedience in places like Chapter 18.  Ezekiel, the other major Prophet of that time, not only doesn't seem to view Jeconiah as Cursed but seems to never regard Zedekiah as a rightful King at all since he dates events of Zedekiah's reign as if Jeconiah was still King.

Earlier in Jeremiah 22 setting the stage for this Curse Yahuah says in verse 24.
As I live, saith Yahuah, though Coniah the son of Jehoiakim king of Judah were the signet upon my right hand, yet would I pluck thee thence;
Compare this to Haggai 2:23 where Yahuah says of Coniah's grandson Zerubabel.
In that day, saith Yahuah of hosts, will I take thee, O Zerubbabel, my servant, the son of Shealtiel, saith Yahuah, and will make thee as a signet: for I have chosen thee, saith Yahuah of hosts.
So that's clearly a reversal, exactly what Jeconiah lost according to Jeremiah 22 Zerubabel has back according to Haggai.  And other Prophets of this time like Zechariah speak similarly of Zerubabel.

And indeed the line of Exilarchs acknowledged by Rabbinic Judaism as the heirs of David in Exile all descended from Zerubabel.

People making this objection often also claim it has to be strictly Pater-Lineal descent, so that leaves out the lines coming through Hillel The Elder who was a Benjamite, his Davidic descent was though his Mother, and through a son of David even further removed from Solomon then Nathan was.

So without the house of Zerubabel, we have no known descent from the Royal Line.

Monday, March 26, 2018

The Sisters of Jesus

I've already did a post on the Brothers of Jesus where I argued that "Mary the Mother of James and Joses" of the Synoptic accounts of the Crucifixion is Mary the Mother of Jesus and Joseph of Arimathea is Jesus brother Joses.  Predicated on arguing that after the events of Matthew 12&13 and Mark 5&6 the Synoptic narrative doesn't refer to Jesus immediate relatives as such.

I felt compelled to explore the possibility that one or more of Jesus Sisters who are unnamed in the Synpotic passages (Matthew 13:56 and Mark 6:3) that tell us he had Sisters could be mentioned by name elsewhere. And in the context of that post, the Women at the Cross who later found the Tomb empty are a good place to start  For example Acts 1:14 refers to Mary the mother of Jesus and his Brethren. Where are the other women?  Brethren can be gender neutral when it's plural so maybe they are all or mostly sisters of Jesus?

Jesus sisters are not defined as disbelieving him the way his Brothers are in John 7, so there is in my view nothing to contradict them being among the women in mind in Luke 8:1-4.  And even then I already argued some of those non-believing Brethren might have changed between Tabernacles and Passover.  Even my past assumption that James didn't become a Believer till after the Resurrection may have been based on a misunderstanding of what Paul said in 1 Corinthians 15.

People named only in Luke I think are named only in Luke because they were among the Eye Witnesses he interviewed, which here would be Joanna and Susana.  So I'm not gonna argue there is good reason to suspect they were sisters of Jesus as much as it would amuse me for Him to have one named Susana which means Lily.

John's account of the Women at the Cross in 19:25 can be considered the most difficult, how many women are refereed to is disputed, and has lead tradition to assert up to three different women here were named Mary.

The Greek text does not insert the word "Kai" for "and" between the reference to "his mother's Sister" and "Mary of Clopas" (no word for Wife is used there) which has been used to argue they are the same.  However the Greek text does still imply a change here in a different way.

I have come to think only two women are being refereed to here.  First John tells us two relatives of Jesus were there, then it names them.  I think "Mary of Clopas" refers to Jesus mother, not sure what it means to call her that, but that's what I think.  Clopas could be a contraction of Cleopatras which means "Glory of the Father".  Maybe either Joseph or Heli were among Jews of the time who had both a Greek and Hebrew name.

And now I come to the phrase translated "his mother's sister".  In the Greek the word for Sister occurs before Mother but both are refereed to possessively.  I think it's possible the intent here was to say "His sister of his mother" as in "His sister by his mother" or "His maternal sister".  Meaning John was identifying Mary Magdalene as Jesus' Sister and also the daughter of Mary of Clopas.  And it became traditional to interpret it different because even before Constantine the perpetual Virginity doctrine was taking hold.

I'm not the first to argue only two women are refereed to here.  Someone wrote a book suggesting a strange theory that the common source material of the Gospels' Passion narrative was a lost Play by Seneca.  This author still thinks the Sister refereed to was of his Mother.  They were arguing that it's identifying Mary Magdalene with Jesus mother and Mary of Clopas with the Sister.  My first objection there is that as common a name as Mary was I don't think two sisters would be given the same name, but being given the name of your parent was just as likely for women as it was for men.

That Author's argument for Mary Magdalene being the Mother was first dependent on them rejecting information about Magdalene unique to Luke and Mark after chapter 16 verse 8 since they wouldn't be in their hypothetical play.  And then comparing this verse to a verse in the Iliad that refers to Semele and her sister by first referring to Semele then describing her sister and then referring to Semele again.  The difference is in that verse Semele was still named the first time she's mentioned.

I don't think this Author's overall Seneca theory is right either.  The Passion narrative makes a good play simply because it was very dramatic.  Chuck Missler has suggested Mark's entire Gospel reads kind of like a Screen Play.  When I was going to a Catholic school we watched an Actor actually do a one man performance based on Mark's Gospel (it annoyingly ended with 16:8) .  Since we're told by early traditions that Mark based his Gospel on what Peter was preaching, maybe Peter performed The Gospel in a similar fashion?

There is another implication of seeing only two people in John 19:25 that author overlooked.

John 20:2 is often seen as refuting any theory that Mary Magdalene is the disciple whom Jesus Loved and so most people who want to argue that say the text of John was changed.  First John 20:2 uses phileo not agape as the other references to this disciple do.  But more importantly this verse says "the other disciple whom Jesus loved", to which I ask "other then who", elsewhere the disciple Jesus loved is in the same scene as Peter without that being needed.  It seems to me like this verse is saying there were at least two disciples whom Jesus loved and they are two of the three in this scene.

If John 19:25 is only referring to two people, then 19:26 saying "Jesus saw his Mother and the disciple standing by, whom he loved" seems logically like it's referring to the same two individuals.  "But he uses the word Son not Daughter?" you may ask.  It's already the point of this scene that he is giving the responsibility of His Mother's Son to someone it doesn't literally belong to.  It's the legal not biological definition of Son that He is using, so why not view gender as equally irrelevant?  And the Pronouns may be more gender neutral in the Greek then they are in English.

Now you may grow concerned that I just overlapped my argument with arguments for Jesus being married to her.  And indeed the only person before me to say Mary Magdalene was his Sister that I've found was also doing that, because they were comparing them to Osiris and Isis and other examples of Royal Incest.  I do not think Jesus was in an incestuous relationship with His younger sister.  But I do know that sometimes in antiquity an unmarried King would have one of his Sisters serve the ceremonial and customary role of Queen.

And that sometimes lead to accusations of Incest, that may have sometimes been true but I don't think nearly as often as Tabloid journalist style historians would want us to think.  I've become skeptical even of some of the stories about Caligula, but with Caligula what stood out was his favoring Drusilla when she wasn't the oldest.  More relevant here would be Herod Agrippa II and Berenice, Josephus seems to ultimately believe the scandalous reports of their incest, but they appear in Acts with Paul commending Agrippa as a student of the Torah, odd thing to do if he was violating Leviticus 18 right in front of him.

But I'm not gonna stress that analogy much since I know of no precedent for it among the Davidic Kings in the Hebrew Bible.  Instead I'll just say sometimes Brothers and Sisters are close in a perfectly normal way, depictions of which in media sometimes inspire Fan Fiction, including Christian media like Narnia.

Another thing about the only person before me I found to argue Mary Magdalene was His sister was that they also identified Mary Magdalene with Mary of Bethany.  I just argued against that identification in my recent post on Bethany, but there can be counters to those arguments.  So I'm not gonna definitively say one way or the other on that here, just speculate on how compatible it could be with this theory.

My Joseph of Arimathea argument already suggested that some of Jesus Siblings could have moved to Benjamite territory near Jerusalem at some point.  Lazarus has been argued to be a nickname and that he's the same as Simon the Leper (or Simon the Jar-Maker in the Aramaic Peshita) of Matthew 26 and Mark 16.  And a Simon was among the brothers of Jesus.  And the argument for Lazarus being the Beloved Disciple is two verses in John 11 one of which also gives that designation to his sisters Mary and Martha.  Maybe the first among His siblings to become believers He sent to live near Jerusalem to prepare things for Him, Joseph the Tomb and then Simon & two sisters their place of lodging.

But I still learn towards them being separate.

Luke twice and Mark in 16:9 (which I believe was always part of Mark's Gospel) refers to Mary Magdalene as someone Jesus cast seven Demons out of.  Some might see this as saying this can't be a relative since this incident is implied to be how she became a follower of Jesus.  But again John 7 shows Jesus siblings were not believers automatically because they were siblings.  It is certainly plausible that Beelzebub would send Demons after Jesus family.

Now I shall address the designation Magdalene.  If it does refer to one of the two cities called Magdalla, she could have moved there later, perhaps she married someone there.  But the root is just the Hebrew word for Tower, Migdol, maybe Nazareth had it's own Tower? (Or Bethany if she's the same as Mary of Bethany?)  Or Maybe it refers to the Migdol Eder in Bethlehem, maybe Mary and Joseph conceived her there before they had to flee to Aegyptos?  Or speaking of that, maybe it refers to one of the Migdol of Mizraim the Hebrew Bible refers to?  Or maybe it's not a location at all, maybe she was taller then average for a Woman and towered over people?  Or maybe the Talmud was right and it means she was a hairdresser?

Well I've spent a lot of time on one Sister.  Time I considered more.

The Synoptic Gospels all identify exactly three of the Woman at the Cross/Myrrbearers but also clearly say there were more.  Matthew and Mark are the most similar to each other in how they refer to them which is why it's pretty common to believe Salome was the mother of Zebede's Children.

However the other reference to the mother of Zebede's Children is also different in Mark.  Matthew introduced the mother of Zebede's children in Matthew 20:10, Mark's account of this same event in 10:35 leaves their mother out of it.  To skeptics that would be a contradiction, but since she was asking on their behalf it's easy to see Mark's account as a justifiable description of what Matthew says happened.  The key here though is that he would have said Salome here if Salome was simply his name for Matthew's character.  And if Mark was Matthew's source material as skeptics claim, why drop the name Salome?  I'm saying this even though it doesn't really conflict with anything I'm arguing to name her Salome, it's just an observation I'm making.

I have been considering models for the Nativity that could make Jesus older then we generally assume during all this (I'll be posting more on that in April).  And given the Student/Teacher relationship Jesus has with the disciples, and how in Matthew 9:15, Mark 2:19 and Luke 5:34 He refers to the Disciples as children of the Bridegroom, it can be possible to see them as young enough to be Nephews. David gave important positions to his maternal Nephews.  So maybe this scene makes a lot of sense if the mother of Zebede's children is also one of Jesus' sisters?  Maternal nephews of a Messianic King have been echoed in mythology since, from some of Arthur's being Knights of the Round Table, to Fili and Kili being sons of Dis the sister of Thorin Oakensheild in The Hobbit.

I'm gonna return to the subject of specifically John 19:25.

Some view a second witness for Mary the Mother of Jesus having a sister in the theory of the Elect Lady whom 2 John is addressed to being her, and that lady having a Sister.  But I'm not convinced of that theory anymore. I think the Elect Lady is the Bride of Christ, whatever your view on that doctrine is.  The Bride does have Children like the Elect Lady does according to Psalm 45 and Revelation 12.  And so the Elect Lady's sister and her children I think may represent non Israelite Abrahamic Nations.

I'm gonna mention a Gnostic text here even though I don't like Gnosticism.  But I think the Nag Hammadi Gospel of Philip or our preserved copies of it also represent confusion on this verse of John as you can read on Wikipedia.
There were three who always walked with the Lord: Mary, his mother, and her sister, and Magdalene, who was called his companion. His sister,[60] his mother and his companion were each a Mary.[58]
I think it's possible this passage originally simply refereed to Mary Magdalene as His Sister.

Sunday, May 14, 2017

England and Edessa

On another blog the other day I did a post theorizing that the early traditions of Mary Magdalene going to Ephesus and the later ones taking her to southern France are perhaps explained by the first Christians of Lyon coming from Ephesus.

Since making that, I decided to look into traditions about the early Briton Church again, which as usual lead me to Simon Zelotes, the only one of the Twelve that I think could have come to Britain.  Of other traditions about where he went, I totally reject ones making him the same as Simon the Half Brother of Jesus, or the Simon who was the second Bishop of Jerusalem.  For reasons explained in my post on the Brothers and Sisters of Jesus.  Other aspects of that post may be relevant later.

He's said to have spent some time in Egypt but no claims that Egypt is where he died.  The same Disciple being linked to both Briton and Egypt could be interesting in light of my England and Egypt post.  (My calling this post England and Edsessa is kinda misleading since it's mostly about pre Anglo-Saxon Britons, but I wanted to repeat that previous double E phonetic effect.)

What's most interesting is Simon's link to Edessa, many traditions seem to also pair him with Jude//Thadeus, who is even more strongly linked to Edessa.  The associations with Aremnia and Iberia of the Caucus could have to do with Moses of Khorene treating Agbar of Edessa as part of Armenia's history.  And them being said to go to Persia may have to do with Edessa being a Parthian client kingdom during much of the first century.

The key thing is that as soon as I realized Simon Zelotes who I'd long knew was sometimes said to come to Britannia had also been associated with Edessa.  I immediately thought of how King Abgar the IX and/or X of Edessa is theorized to be who the Liber Pontificals actually meant by King Lucius of Britain.

This is more complicated then the Ephesus to Lyon connection for three reasons.

1. That a group of Christians came to Lyon from Ephesus in the Second Century is a known fact independent of thinking the development of traditions about Mary Magdelene had anything to do with it.  While here I admittedly have little to go on to prove anyone ever came from Edessa/Osroene to Britain during the time frame in question.

2. I don't necessarily think this migration is the sole or even primary origin of Briton Christianity, as the Ephesus to Lyon connection seems to be.  Tertulian and I think also Irenaus have quotes showing Christians were in Britain already before the time of Abgar IX.  And I still think Aristobulus of Romans 16 came to Britain as there are no alternate traditions for him.

3. Simon Zelotes like all of the Twelve I think did more traveling around then Mary Magdalene did, who traditions take only to Ephesus and much later France.  So maybe he individually did go to both places, (especially since he's said to have come to Britannia twice, in the early 40s and in 60), while I'm certain Mary was never actually in France.  But there are some reasons in the New Testament to think the Twelve went mainly to places with a very strong Jewish presence, which Edessa had in the first century, but Britannia did not.  Acts 2:9-11 mentions Mesopotamians and Arabians (Osroene was an Arabian kingdom in Mesopotamia) present at Pentecost, but not Britain or Gaul.  I think Paul lead the way West while the Twelve focused mainly on the East (I've already shown that Peter didn't go to Rome). I'm interested in theories of Paul coming to Britain but haven't looked that deep into it yet, the main book on it is pretty expensive.

Much of ancient Osroene was in modern Syria (but all of it East/North of the Euphrates).  But it had chunks of Iraq and modern Turkey, including Edessa itself and the city possibly responsible for the Lucius in Britain scribal Error, Birtha aka Birecik.

Bede added to the Lucius of Britain story that under him the whole country converted and remained Christian at least until the Diocletian Persecution. Elsewhere that persecution is not known to have had any notable incidents in Britain, in fact it seems it wasn't enforced in The West much at all.  But major focal points of much of it were in Turkey and in the East.  Logically, this may have been a time when many Christians in the East migrated West.

Another figure controversially associated with both Turkey and Britain is Empress Helena, but in this case it's her beginning not end that is being disputed.  The source for her being born in Nicodemia is not till the 6th Century, and seems to be based on her and Constantine's later connections to Nicodemia.  So I'm inclined to doubt she was born there.  But the problem with the much later traditions of her being born a Briton princess is that Constantius Chlorus didn't come to Britain until within a year before he died there and Constantine was already an adult.

I think maybe an overlooked clue to Helena's origin is her name.  Before her the only royal families Helena would have been a dynastic name for are Osroene and Adiabene, who intermarried with each other.  Helen of Adiabene married Abgar V of Edessa after her first husband died.  I think the two later kings of Osroene called Bar Ezad were sons of Helena's son Izates II of Adiabene probably by a daughter of Abgar.  So just as mythical Welsh genealogies make Empress Helena a descendant of Lucius of Britain, I think she may really have been a descendant of Lucius Abgar of Birecik.

Regardless of Constantine's ancestry, his descendants I think include many monarchs of the British Isles right down to the present.... but first.

Both the other wife of Constantius, and the only wife of Constanine who is ancestral to his successors, Fausta, were daughters of Eutropia.  A woman of seemingly noble origin in Roman Syria.  And so I think very likely to descend from the Near Eastern Roman aristocracy that descended from Antiochus IV Epiphanes of Commagene and thus from the Seleucid Dynasty.  And also from daughters of the Ptolemaic Dynasty like Cleopatra Thea, Tryphenea and Cleopatra Selene.  So this post is again further backing for making British Royalty descendants of Egyptian Royalty.

Flavia Maxima Constantia, was a granddaughter of Constantine, and a descendant of both daughters of Eutropia.  She married the Western Emperor Gratian.  They are in mainstream history presumed to have had no children, but they were married for long enough, and there's a lot of time that Constantia isn't mentioned.  How she died at only 21 max isn't known, maybe she died in child birth.  If Gratian had any "legitimate" children it was by her, he died before he could even have consummated his second marriage.

Welsh traditions say that Magnus Maximus was married to a daughter of Gratian named either Helena or Ellen.  Welsh genealogies sometimes say he had two wives, one named Helena and one Ellen, one a daughter of Gratian and the other of a mysterious Eudaf.  Eudaf is a name used in other welsh texts to refer to Octavian Caesar Augustus, whether the name actually comes from Octavian or Augustus is hard to tell, but this is why the Eudaf who is a father in law of Maximus is sometimes given as a King Octavius of Britain.  Gratian's full name as Emperor was Flavius Gratainus Augustus, so I think his daughter was the only wife of Magnus Maximus.

Welsh genealogies put Magnus Maximus in the ancestry of a lot of people.  There may be a route to put him in the ancestry of the Kings of Gwynedd from whom came the Medieval princes of Wales from whom came The Tudors.  But I want to focus on the Scottish connection here.

Rigrawst was the wife of King Brychan of Brycheiniog.  Born 468 AD, she was the daughter of Gwrtheyrn ap Gwidol (Vortigern) and Severa Ferch Mascsen, the daughter of Magnus Maximus. [ Brian Daniel Starr, The Life of Saint Brychan: King of Brycheiniog and Family (Google eBook) (Brian Daniel Starr, 2008) page 59.]  Brychan himself may through his mother descended from Maximus's daughter Gratiana who is said to have married Tudwall of Galloway.

Dyfnwal Hen was a King of Strathclyde.  The Bonedd Gwŷr y Gogledd, a later genealogy of northern kings gives a modified version of Dyfnwal's family tree.[Bromwich, pp. 256–257] Here, he is the son of Idnyued and the grandson of Magnus Maximus.  There are also genealogies making Dyfnwal an ancestor of Gabran mac Domangairt, father of Aeden mac Gabran, from whom descends most later royalty of Scotland, from Malcolm and Duncan of Macbeth (and possibly Macbeth himself) down to the Davids and Alexanders, then to Robert The Bruce (through his great grandmother Isobel of Huntingdon) and eventually the Stuarts including James I ancestor of all Kings of Britain since.  Brychan I've also seen listed as an ancestor of Gabran.  Malcom III of Scotland also had a daughter who was the mother of Empress Matilda and thus Grandmother of the Plantagenet Kings of England, another Daughter of Malcolm's was Mary who married Eustace III of Boulogne.

I did a post in the past on Adiabene where I theorized that Izates II or Monobaz II or both could have married Half-Sisters of Jesus.  I also have a post on Arthruain Legend and Grail Romances where I draw on that post and my Half Brothers of Jesus post and theorize that King Kalafes of Grail Legend may be based on Abgar of Edessa.  And maybe Bron was actually Izatez or Monobaz.  A daughter of Kalafes married a son of Bron who inherited his Kingdom.  I've already suggested that the Davidic Exilarchs of the Jewish Community in Mesopotamia could also descent from Abgar and Izates.  And also the Bagratid Dynasty. 

I don't think Joseph of Arimathea actually came to Britain.  But some things about the Grail legend are geographically contradictory.  For example Sarras is said to be both an island they stopped at on the way to Britain and "on the road from Jerusalem to the Euphrates and Babylon", which makes me wonder if it could be meant to be Sura, which was linked by a roman road to Palmyra in antiquity.

If Josephus is correct that the Tadmor of Solomon was Palmyra, then maybe it's allegorically what the Grail lore meant by the "Ship of Solomon", while also bringing in Celtic Pagan ideas.  When Wikipedia attempts to cast doubt on this identification, it says the Tadmor of 1 Kings 9:18 was built in Judea, that is demonstrably wrong because that verse clearly says Tadmor and Baalath were built "In the Wilderness" a term that refers to the deserts of Arabia, Jordan and Syria.  The "in the Land" phrase just means within what was was promised to Abraham which extended all the way to the Euphrates.  We know from Assyrian inscriptions that Palmyra was called Tadmor/Tadmar.

According to the Vulgate Queste del Saint Graal and Estoire del Saint Graal, Galahad is of the Lineage of Solomon via his descent from the Fisher Kings, and that is why the "Ship of Solomon" is important.  The Grail saga ends with Galahad and the Grail being taken to heaven at Sarras, and then Sir Bors lives on to tell the tale.

If Sarras is Sura then Corbenic could be identified with a city of Osroene or Adiabene.  And Castle Mortal would be another city of the same area.

The traditional timeline for King Arthur is 516-537 based on the Annals Cambrie, but Geoffrey of Monmouth and the Brute Tyslo place his death in 542.  The Exilarch at that time was Mar Ahunai, but he never operated publicly due to the fall out of his predecessor Mar Zutra II's failed rebellion (496-502 AD).  Mar Zutra II also had a son, Mar Zutra III, who became head of an academy.

The Bagratid descent would at this time be represented by the father, or grandfather or maybe even great-grandfather of Guaram I, the first Prince of Iberia.  This Guaram was the son of a Solomon son of Dahn son of Isaac son of Aser.

But perhaps the real forgotten inspiration for this was that via Empress Helena the descendants of the Agbars of Edessa becomes kings in the British Isles.

Update Nov 16 2018: Pelegius and the East.

Pulegius of the Pelegian heresy was a Briton, he lived in the late 4th and early 5th Century.  What's often over looked is how connected the Pelegian Hersey (which is today Amriniasm)  and the Nestorian controversy were.  Pelegius got a lot of his ideas from Rufinus the Syrian, and Celestine was a follower of Pelegius who's association with Nestorius was used against him by Cyril of Alexandria.

However the key difference between the Pelegians of the Latin West and the Nesotrians & other descendants of the Antiochene School in the East was that Pelegius seems to have rejected Universal Salvation while Theodore of Mopsuestia affirmed it, as did Isaac of Nineveh.  Nisibis and Edessa both specifically become home to successor schools to Antioch.

This article isn't mine but seems to be by people who support the Augustinian view of Original Sin way more then I do, interesting information comes up in the comments section as well.
https://blogs.ancientfaith.com/orthodoxyandheterodoxy/2013/09/05/original-sin-and-ephesus-carthages-influence-on-the-east/

A post I made on Cyril and Nestorius.
https://solascripturachristianliberty.blogspot.com/2018/11/the-incarnation-of-logos-and-divine.html

And one I made on Pelegius.
https://solascripturachristianliberty.blogspot.com/2018/04/pelagius-was-in-error-but-it-wasnt-free.html

Monday, March 7, 2016

The Second Coming of Messiah Ben-David

The common perception is that only people who think Jesus is The Messiah think He has two advents, that He was born thousands of years before He actually conquerors Israel's enemies and establishes His Kingdom on Earth.  And that the only thing you'll find in Rabbinic or other non-Christian Jewish traditions that could be adapted to fit the Christian view is the dual Messiah concept, usually with Messiah ben Joseph as the first advent.

However there is an interesting over looked collection of Jewish traditions about a Messiah Ben-David named Menahem.

Jerusalem Talmud, Berachot 2:4 5a says.
A Jew was ploughing and his cow was lowing as he went.
An Arab who passed by heard it, and said: "Son of the Jews, release your cow and abandon your plough, for the
Temple has been destroyed."
The ox lowed again, and the Arab said: "Son of the Jews, tie up your cow and tie up your plough, for King Messiah
has been born."
The Jew asked: "What is his name?"
The other answered: "Menahem."
The Jew asked: "What is his father's name?"
The other answered: "Hezekiah."
The Jew asked: "Where is he from?"
The other answered: "From the dwelling place of the King, Bethlehem in Judah."
The Jew sold his cow and his plough and became a seller of infants' swaddling clothes.
He went in and out of one town after another until he came to that town, and all the women bought from him, but
Menahem's mother did not buy.
He heard the women say: "Mother of Menahem, mother of Menahem, come and buy for your son!"
She told him: "I should like to strangle my son Menahem, for on the day he was born, the Temple was
destroyed."
He told her: "We are sure that just as he marked its destruction, so he shall build it once more."
She said: "I have no money."
He said: "No matter, come and buy, and if you have no money today, after some days I shall come and collect it."
After some days, he came back to the town, and asked her: "How is the child?"
She said: "After you saw me, a mighty wind came and snatched him out of my hands."
The Babylonian Talmud Sanhedrin 98b says
Others say: His name is Menahem the son of Hezekiah, for it is written, Because Menahem ['the comforter'], that would relieve my soul, The Rabbis said: His name is 'the leper scholar,' as it is written, Surely he hath borne our griefs, and carried our sorrows: yet we did esteem him a leper, smitten of God, and afflicted.
Lamentations 1:16 is the Bible verse being quoted to support Menahem being a potential name for The Messiah.  Because the name is often said to mean "Comforter" this ought to make Christians think of John's Gospel, where it's used as a title of The Holy Spirit, we see with Mani, Muhammad and Bahai that it is common for heretics to twist that refer to a future prophesied figure.  

But the Hebrew word for Comforter is Nachom, Menahem comes from putting a Mem at the beginning as a prefix, which makes it mean "from the Comforter".  The reference to Isaiah 53:4 is actually a different proposed name of the Messiah, it shows how the early Rabbis did consider that Messianic. Actually John 14:16 has been translated as saying "Another Comforter" implying The Comforter is a title of Jesus also. In fact that same Greek word is the one translated Advocate when Jesus is called our Advocate in 1 John 2:1.

I wonder if this personage is in any way based on Menahem ben Judah of Josephus.  Being born the day The Temple was destroyed wouldn't fit.  But his ancestor Judas the Galilean there is good reason to suspect was the same person as Judas ben Hezekiah who was also a Galilean.

Certain fringe theorists and Preterists make much of how the Yossipon seems to place Agrippa and Monobaz as being killed about three and a half years before The Temple was destroyed in 70 AD,  tying into Daniel 9 and 12.  Josephus has both of them alive after this, but places the execution of Menahem about this time.

Even more complicated then the Menahem ben Hezekiah tradition is the Menahem ben Ammiel tradition, the core of which is the Sefer Zerubabel.  An English translation can be read online here.  Where Messiah Ben-Joseph is Nehemiah Ben Hushiel and Messiah Ben-David is Menahem ben Ammiel.

This text began to form in the early 7th Century in the time of Nehemiah ben Hushiel.  It entered it's final from in the 11th century, there are many contradictions in it, and between it's different texts.

In this version he's taken by a whirlwind not to heaven but to Rome (spiritually called Nineveh) where he is being held prisoner till the time of the end.

His genealogy is curious, first why is he the son of Ammiel?  Christians concerned that the Antichrist might be of Dan and claim to be the Messiah could take note that Ammiel was the spy representing Dan in Number 13:12.  But I find it more interesting that Ammiel was the name of the father of Bathsheba.  Perhaps it is telling us cryptically which wife of David the author thought would produce The Messiah?  Which for Christians is consistent with both Matthew and Luke's genealogies.

The mother of Menahem ben Ammiel is a very surprisingly interesting character in this story.  Her name is Hefzibah/Hephzibah.  Which is interesting because that was the name of the wife of King Hezekiah and mother of King Manasseh.  And this Menahem does call himself the son of Hezekiah at one point.  And Manasseh was held captive in Babylon for awhile.  2 Chronicles but not 2 Kings records that he did repent of his sins.  But his sins included placing Idols in The Temple, which makes him a possible type of The Antichrist.  She may of course have borne Hezekiah other sons.

Hephzibah is also a poetic name for Israel in Isaiah 62:4.  So perhaps Christians should see Hephzibah as a name for the woman of Revelation 12?

But she is also called the Wife of Nathan the Prophet in the translation I linked to above.  In a Bate Midrashot 2:504, Hefzibah is called the wife of Nathan The Prophet son of David and the mother of Menahem son of Ammiel, son of David.  The Zohar 3:17b says
“You who bring good tidings to Zion” is Hephzibah, the wife of Nathan son of David, who is the mother of Messiah, Menachem son of Amiel. She shall go out and bring the tidings . . .”
So the confusion perhaps comes largely from a confusion of Nathan the Prophet with Nathan the son of Bathsheba.  So this is a Jewish text hostile to Christianity cryptically hinting at The Messiah Ben David possibly coming from Nathan.  I've argued before why you can get that conclusion from The Hebrew Scriptures alone.

Contradictions exist on when Menahem ben Ammiel was born, some imply when the First Temple was destroyed modifying the Talmudic tradition.  But the only statement I noticed on it in the translation I read said he was born during the reign of King David.

Could Nathan Ben David have had a son born that early?   As I argued before Nathan was older then Solomon, and since Rehoboam was 41 when he began to reign and Solomon reigned only 40 years he was born to Solomon during the reign of David.

Luke 3 lists the Son of Nathan as Mattatha, and the son of Mattatha as Menan.  Menan is distinct from but has a similarity to Menahem (in the Septuagint Menahem ben Gadi King of Israel is rendered Manaem, and as Manaen by Aquila of Sinope).  Manaen of Acts 13:1 is also considered a Greek form of this Hebrew name.  Luke's Hellenizing the name differently these two occasions could come from him learning them from different sources. 

It's possible Mattatha was not Nathan's only or even firstborn son.

I have argued that Heli is the father of Mary in Luke's genealogy.  In expanding on that I argued that there may be other places where Luke's genealogy is really going through a father in law, but still Joseph is the only male named who's not a biological ancestor of Jesus.  Particularly my belief regarding the additional Cainan/Kenen of Luke 3's overlap with Genesis 11 is that Kenen was an older son of Arphaxad and that Selah married Kenen's daughter, since even Leviticus 18 does not forbid uncle/niece marriage.  So maybe Luke is recording a similar thing in 3:31, maybe Menan and Mattatha were both sons of Nathan and Menan married his niece, a daughter of Mattatha?

So it seems the only thing Rabbinic Jews are completely uncomfortable with (besides Divinity) is Messiah Ben-David dying, yet they know a Messiah will die and give that role to Ben-Joseph.  But the main Bible passage they cite as being about Ben-Joseph's death is Zechariah 12, which I've discussed before showing how even Jewish translations make it pretty clear the one pierced is of the house of David.

Sunday, October 18, 2015

Possible Hasmonean ancestry of The Virgin Mary

I've already explained why Heli is the Father of Mary.  That combined with my hunch that the solution to the Kenen issue is that Kenen was Selah's older brother by some 15 or so years and Selah married Kenen's daughter.  Leads me to conclude that Luke 3's genealogy sometimes records the descent through a woman, but keeps it patriarchally expressed by listing the woman's husband as the son in law of her father.  Joseph is distinct because he is the only one who is NOT a biological ancestor of Jesus, thus he alone lacks the Greek definite article.

This can also explain the issue regarding the father of Shealtiel.  I think a daughter of Neri married Shealtiel son of Jechoniah, then he died without an heir and so she married his brother Pedaiah and had Zerubbabel.  There is also the issue that neither New Testament son of Zerubbabel is named in his Old Testament genealogy in 1 Chronicles 3:19.   Matthew is definitely skipping generations sometimes, so Abiud could be a grandson or great grandson or further (the possibility that Abiud is a weird Greek form of Akkub of 1 Chronicles 3:24 has entered my mind).  And in the context of what I'm arguing here about Luke's genealogy, 1 Chronicles 3:19 does say Zerubbabel had a daughter, Shelomith, so I think she married Resha.

So my theory is when Heli is called a Son of Matthat it could mean son in law, and so on, but not always of course.

An interesting name in Luke 3:24 is Janna.  Janna is a very rare Hebrew name, and the only recorded example of the name around the time this Janna would have lived is the Hasmonean King Alexander Jannaeus.  Again I suspect the Joseph he's described as the son of could be his wife's father.

The only known wife of Alexander Jannaeus was Queen Salome Alexandra (Shelomtzion or Shlom Tzion).  Josephus tells us nothing about her family, but rabbinic traditions recorded in the Talmud say she was the sister of Simeon bar Shetah, Simeon's father was Shetah bar Yossei.  Since the Talmud is oral traditions written down at least 300 years after Salome's time it could be the nature of her relation to this family had slipped by a generation, making Simeon her nephew and Shetah her brother.  Since Yossei is a different form of Joseph, that would make Alexander Jannaeus a son in law of a Joseph.  Actually I can't help but suspect the Shetah generation is made up entirely since no Shetah was ever Nasi of the Sanhedrin but a Jose ben Joezer was, (however another candidate for the Joseph Luke 3:24 is Jose ben Jochanan).

Epiphanius of Salamis in Panarion Book 1 in the section discussing the Nazoreans seems to identify the marriage of Alexander and Salome as uniting the Aaronic and Davidic lines.

This family was one of the leading families of the Sanhedrin, from what I know about other leading families of the Sanhedrin (like the House of Hilel which came later), they often had Davidic ancestry.  And once the Hasmoneans started ruling as Kings it would make sense they'd want to marry into the House of David.  And the two Husbands of Alexandra were the first two to rule as Kings.  So Yossei being a descendant of Nathan Ben David is reasonably plausible.  But I have a hunch the mother Alexander & Aristobolus and wise of Hyrcanus I was also of Davidic descent.

Actually another good reason for Hasmonean leaders to marry daughters of David was perhaps simply because they were the High Priests.  Aaron's wife was Elisheba, the sister of Nashon who was a prince of Judah and direct ancestor of Boaz and thus David.  Much later Jehosheba was a daughter Jehoram and sister of Ahaziah, king of Judah of the House of David, who married the Priest Jehoiada.

Salome and Jannaeus had two sons, Hyrcanus II and Aristoblus II.  From then on with few exceptions all the Hasmoneans are known only by Greek names, but I suspect most also had Hebrew names that Josephus simply neglected to record.

But Melchi may not even be the main Hebrew name of whoever is meant, it derives from the Hebrew word for King.  Both sons had been Kings, though I feel Aristobulus II was more likely to have used Melek as an alternate name.

Aristobulus II had two sons and two daughters one of whom was named Alexandra (not to be confused with the Alexandra who married her brother Alexander).  Himself, his son Matthias Antigonus II, and his daughters are recorded as being taken to Rome by Pompey after he captured Jerusalem in 63 BC according to Josephus (Antiquities of The Jews Book 14 Chapter 4, at the end of the chapter).  They later returned to Judea, after the death of Aristobulus II in 48 BC they were protected by Ptolemy Bar Mennaeus according to (Antiquities Book 14 Chapter 7, at the very end).  Phillipon the son of Ptolemy married Alexandra, but later Ptolemy killed him and married Alexandra himself.  The unnamed daughter after Antigonus died held the Hyrcania Fortress till just before Actium in 31 BC.

I suspect the unnamed sister is more likely to have possibly been married to a Levi, (or perhaps that name just signified marrying a Levite or a Levitical priest).

Robert Graves started a fringe theory that involved Matthias Antigonus II as the Matthat of Luke 3:24 (a theory defended in a book called Herodian Messiah).  His scheme however did not match a strict literal interpretation of Scripture and so I do not intend to support it specifically at all.

Janna was a rare name which is why I think it could be significant.  Matthat/Matthias/Matthew was very common however, so that's not as significant.  Still hypothetically if this Matthat was Antigonus II, we know pater-lineally only one generation comes between him and Jannaeus, so it would mean he married either his niece or a first cousin once removed.  Neither of which are included in The Bible's incest restrictions, so it would be perfectly legal.

In John 8:48 Jesus is accused of being both a Samaritan and Demon Possessed, he denies being Demon Possessed but not being a Samaritan.

I talked in the Heli post about why Heli could be an alternate name for a Jehoiakim, and how Jehoiakim was in some traditions the father of Mary.  Jehoiakim is also a fairly rare name, so it's interesting that the Samaritan records claim a Jehoiakim was their High-Priest at about this very time period, (number 38).

That connection is a tenuous one however.  But Matthias Antigonus is known to have had at least one daughter.

The Herodian Messiah theory alluded to above is dependent on confusing the two wives of Antipater.  Mariamne III who was a daughter of Aristobulus IV, and an unnamed wife who was a daughter of Matthias Antigonus.  The Herodian Messiah theory makes Antipater the husband of Mary and father of Jesus.  My theory makes a daughter of Antigonus possibly Mary's mother, not Mary herself.

I've actually expressed elsewhere my suspicion that the claims of Herod being an Idumean may have been propaganda against him.  Though his official claim to Exilarch descent is also very likely to be propaganda.  I certainly reject the assumption that the Idumeans were Edomite, I view them as Ishmaelite (with a possible Simeonite element), and Antipater did have Idumean descent through his mother. The relationship between Herod and Costobarus suggests to me that Herod didn't think of himself as Idumean at all.

Antipater is a Greek name, so Antipater son of Herod could have had an additional Hebrew or Aramaic name that history hasn't recorded.

It's possible this woman wasn't the only daughter of Antigonus II.  And it's also possible she was already a widow when she was married to Antipater, if Antigonus himself had ever arranged a marriage for her it wouldn't be likely to have been to a Herodian.

I think one factor in why Luke laid out this genealogy how he did was because of the potential significance in the numbers.  Luke's genealogy has Jesus as the 77th from Adam and 70th from Enoch.

Tuesday, June 2, 2015

Adiabene, Christianity, and Messiah Ben-Joseph

This is an interesting follow up to my post on the Kurds and the Lost Tribes.

Adiabene in the Talmud is called Hadayb and is identified with Habor of II Kings 17:6 in Kddushin 17a.  Where some of the Northern Kingdom exiles were transported.

Josephus records how Helena the wife of Adiabene's king Monobaz I converted to Judaism, around the same time so did her son Izates.  A Jew named Ananias was their teacher in Judaism.  Izates and Monobaz II his older bother both ruled the Kingdom.  Izates died before 60 AD.  Monobaz II assisted the Jewish rebellion against Rome in 66-70 AD, we know nothing about his fate or history after 70 AD, or indeed the Kingdom at all till the reign of Trajan.  Helena and Izatez were buried in Jerusalem.

The Yosippon (a not easily available in English Hebrew adaptation of various parts of Josephus, but could also relate some useful independent information), claims that both Agrippa II and Monobaz II were killed by Rome in the 66-73 AD War.  Because Agrippa II we know lived after that, the entirety of that reference is often considered discredited.  But Monobaz fate is unknown, the Romans didn't usually let people who rebelled against them get off easy (Agrippa was on their side so they wouldn't kill him).  And it's not hard to imagine reasons Josephus wouldn't have mentioned Monobaz being executed.

However if Monobaz did die during that War I doubt it was at it's start as the Yosippon actually says, placing it 1290 days before the Temple's destruction on the 9th of Av in 70 AD.   The text of Yosippon wants to present this double murder as fulfilling the Messiah being Cut Off of Daniel 9, which is why Preterists love quoting it.  In Josephus Menahaim ben Judas the Galilean was killed about this time after being Crowned.

If Izates and Monobaz were descendants of Northern Kingdom Exiles who had lost their identity, but now had returned to Yahweh worship and lead their entire nation in doing so.  And if Monobaz II died in battle with Edom in 70 AD.  It's interesting how they resemble the role that Messiah Ben-Joseph is expected to play by modern Jews.  All that would be left is for one or both of them to be Resurrected by Messiah Ben-David.

Josephus' biography of Izates even tells us his paternal half brothers were jealous of him because of the favoritism he received being the son of the favorite wife.  So his story has parallels to Joseph.

What's interesting about that to me is that there is also speculation that the Judaism they converted to may have been early Christianity.  The fact that whether or not Izates should be circumscribed is a source of disagreement is interesting.  The Ananias they knew has been speculated to be the Ananias of Acts.  And according to Moses of Khorone, Helena later married the Christian King Abgar of Osroene (Osroene's capital was Edessa), another Mesopotamian region, after her first husband Monobaz I died.

Monobaz II is quoted in the Talmud as saying something possibly influenced by Jesus.
"My fathers stored up below and I am storing up above... My fathers stored in a place which can be tampered with, but I have stored in a place which cannot be tampered with… My fathers gathered treasures of money and I have gathered treasures of souls."-Baba Batra 11a.
Matthew 6:19-21
 "Lay not up for yourselves treasures upon earth, where moth and rust doth corrupt, and where thieves break through and steal: But lay up for yourselves treasures in heaven, where neither moth nor rust doth corrupt, and where thieves do not break through nor steal: For where your treasure is, there will your heart be also."
It'd be interesting if Helena, Izates II and Monobaz II are all resurrected at The Rapture and proclaim Jesus to be The Messiah Ben-David to all who witness it.

Assyrian Christian traditions say Thomas, Thaddeus and Bartholomew were the first to bring the Faith to Assyria.  And that Peter was in Babylon like he said he was when he wrote 1 Peter.  But the details of the early development of Mesopotamian Christianity are not well documented.  Their first known Bishop was from the time of Trajan.

The majority of Assyrians were Christians already when Constantine made it legal in Rome, and so they defected to Rome from Persia.

Many scholars believe the royal family of Adiabene could be among the ancestors of the Amatuni, a noble family that popped up in Armenia in the fourth century, and were Christians.

If the Amatuni could be from a family with Jewish stock, I feel that gives credibility to the claims of the Bagartid dynasty, who shows up near the same region only a century or two later.

What is interesting about the Bagratid claim is they claim to come from the near Kin of Jesus.

The descendants of Jesus half siblings, or at least some of them, remained in Jerusalem and were pretty much the exclusive leadership of the Jerusalem church til the Bar-Kochba revolt.  They didn't disappear entirely then however.

Eusebius quotes Julius Africanus as referring to people claiming to be descended from the siblings of Jesus in his day, but they had now left Judea and traveled into other countries.
A few of the careful, however, having obtained private records of their own, either by remembering the names or by getting them in some other way from the registers, pride themselves on preserving the memory of their noble extraction. Among these are those already mentioned, called Desposyni, on account of their connection with the family of the Saviour. Coming from Nazara and Cochaba, villages of Judea, into other parts of the world, they drew the aforesaid genealogy from memory and from the book of daily records as faithfully as possible.
I think Sumbat's Chronicle is corrupted and confused by the early traditions that were uncomfortable with Jesus having siblings by the same mother.
Genealogy of the Bagrationi dynasty according to Sumbat
  1. Adam
  2. Seth
  3. Enos
  4. Kenan
  5. Mahalalel
  6. Jared
  7. Enoch
  8. Methuselah
  9. Lamech
  10. Noah
  11. Shem
  12. Arpachshad
  13. Cainan
  14. Salah
  15. Eber
  16. Peleg
  17. Reu
  18. Serug
  19. Nahor
  20. Terah
  1. Abraham
  2. Isaac
  3. Jacob
  4. Judah
  5. Perez
  6. Hezron
  7. Ram
  8. Amminadab
  9. Nahshon
  10. Salmon
  11. Boaz
  12. Obed
  13. Jesse
  14. David
  15. Solomon
  16. Rehoboam
  17. Abijah
  18. Asa
  19. Jehosaphat
  20. Jehoram
  1. Amaziah
  2. Uzziah
  3. Jotham
  4. Ahaz
  5. Hezekiah
  6. Manasseh
  7. Amon
  8. Josiah
  9. Jeconiah
  10. Shealtiel
  11. Zerubbabel
  12. Abiud
  13. Eliakim
  14. Azor
  15. Zadok
  16. Achim
  17. Eliud
  18. Eleazar
  19. Matthan
  20. Cleopas
  1. Jacob
  2. Naom
  3. Salah
  4. Robuam
  5. Mohtar
  6. Eliakim
  7. Benjamin
  8. Iherobem
  9. Moses
  10. Judah
  11. Eliazar
  12. Levi
  13. Jehoram
  14. Manasseh
  15. Jacob
  16. Mikiah
  17. Jehoakim
  18. Jehrubem
  19. Abraham
  20. Job
  1. Akab
  2. Simon
  3. Izahkar
  4. Abiah
  5. Aser
  6. Isaac
  7. Dahn
  8. Solomon
  9. Guaram
  10. Stephanoz
  11. Adarnase
  12. Stephanoz
  13. Guaram
  14. Varaz-Bakur
  15. Nerse
  16. Adarnase
  17. Bagrationi dynasty
Generation 60 has Cleopas which I believe the original source of the genealogy probably had Joseph.  And I also think his and Jacob's spots got switched. That makes Naom, generation 62, the same generation as Jesus.  Now you may be thinking, Jesus didn't have a brother named Naom?

The male name Naom is a fairly rare Hebrew name, I don't think anyone in The Bible had it in either Testament.  But it's feminine form, Naomi, is infamous as the name of an important character in the book of Ruth, a book about the origins of the Davidic Line.

We don't know the names of Jesus sisters, maybe one was named Naomi?  But later record keepers wanted to obscure that they'd carried this line through a woman?

We know the identity of one of Izates's wives and she wasn't from Judea but another Proselyte.  But Josephus says he had 48 children in 25-30 years.  So clearly he had more wives.  First century Judaism was still practicing Polygamy.  We also don't know if Monobaz II ever married or reproduced at all.

Two early second century Rulers of Osroene were called "Bar Ezad"(Son of Ezad) even though no ruler named Ezad is mentioned.  It could be this indicates further ties between Izates and the family of Abgar.  Abgar bar Ezad also rebelled against Trajan when the Jews of the region did.  Agbar VIII and Agbar IX were probably descended from Manu Bar Ezad.

Moses of Khorone clearly felt the people of Abgar's Edessa were among the progenitors of the Armenians of his day which is why he focused on Agbar so much and not on the actual rulers of First Century Armenia who were always either Roman or Parthian vassals.

Creating a Jewish monarchy Izates and Monobaz could very likely have sought descendants of David as wives.  And if they were early Christians, could have desired strong ties to Jesus family who were leading the Jerusalem Church and probably other early Jewish-Christian Churches as well.

The Kingdom of Osroene was also founded by Nabateans in the second century BC, making them Ishmaelites.

Modern DNA studies have shown that modern Jews are close cousins to Armenians and Christian Kurds.

Update April 2016: These theories happened to come up in my discussion of Arthurian Legend and Grail Romances.

Update October 2019: It's also possible the Jacob son of Cleops of that genealogy is James son of Joseph the oldest Half Brother of Jesus.